Can we please define hipster? [General]
2012 Oct 10
Check this out:
diehipster.wordpress.com
"A place for real New Yorkers to vent about the invasion of attention starved, useless adults that we know as hipsters."
diehipster.wordpress.com
"A place for real New Yorkers to vent about the invasion of attention starved, useless adults that we know as hipsters."
2012 Oct 10
Youch. Nevermind Hintonburg, I didn't realize the situation was so dire in Brooklyn where they've recently had a 'hipster infestation':
"Where our coffee/tea is still about a dollar. Where we eat non-organic, not overpriced food. Where we don’t need or want bike lanes. Where there is zero pretension. Where parks are filled with children and not 30 year old kidults trying to out do each others daily hipster costumes."
"Where our coffee/tea is still about a dollar. Where we eat non-organic, not overpriced food. Where we don’t need or want bike lanes. Where there is zero pretension. Where parks are filled with children and not 30 year old kidults trying to out do each others daily hipster costumes."
2012 Oct 10
and from the same site, sung to the tune of Billy Joel's Piano Man:
The Casio Man – Billyburg Joel
Posted on October 10, 2012
It’s 9am on a Wednesday
Emaciated Ethan sleeps in
There’s a tattooed Megan laying next to him
Her job is riding around on a Schwinn
He has arms that resemble celery
And sounds like he talks through his nose
His new art loft is sweet
I read that from his Tweet
He fits into young women’s clothes.
Yah yah yah di di yahhhhh
Yah yah di di yah yahhhhhh
Sing us a song, you’re the Casio man
On the Bedford Ave platform tonight
You claim we hate you out of jealousy
Your beard I’d love to ignite.
Now Josh at the bar is a friend of his
He gets him his craft ale for free
He claims to be broke but always has coke
Thank god for that liberal arts degree
He says, “Ethan, I believe this is itching me.”
As he scratched the filthy beard on his face
“One day I’ll be a famous artist,
But for now my dad pays for my place”
Oh, Yah yah yah di di yahhhhh
Yah yah di di yah yahhhhhh
Zoey is a waitress practicing smugness
Part time Vegans chew on chicken bones
Yes, they’re sharing with us their pretentiousness.
But it’s better than flying back home.
Sing us a song, you’re the Casio man
On the Bedford Ave platform tonight
You claim we hate you out of jealousy
Your beard I’d love to ignite.
Now Zach is a real shitty novelist
Got held up for his iPhone with a knife
He’s extremely lazy
Got fired from Old Navy
He’ll be in credit card debt for life
It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday
McCarren’s full of Chloes and Kyles
They’ve done shit all week; this park really reeks
And probably will for a while
And the Casio, it sounds like a 5 year old’s
And Ethans body is shaped like a spear
And they sit at the bar – drink from mason jars
And say, “Yah, PBR is the best beer”
Oh, Yah yah yah di di yahhhhh
Yah yah di di yah yahhhhhh
Sing us a song, you’re the Casio man
On the Bedford Ave platform tonight
You claim we hate you out of jealousy
Your beard I’d love to ignite
The Casio Man – Billyburg Joel
Posted on October 10, 2012
It’s 9am on a Wednesday
Emaciated Ethan sleeps in
There’s a tattooed Megan laying next to him
Her job is riding around on a Schwinn
He has arms that resemble celery
And sounds like he talks through his nose
His new art loft is sweet
I read that from his Tweet
He fits into young women’s clothes.
Yah yah yah di di yahhhhh
Yah yah di di yah yahhhhhh
Sing us a song, you’re the Casio man
On the Bedford Ave platform tonight
You claim we hate you out of jealousy
Your beard I’d love to ignite.
Now Josh at the bar is a friend of his
He gets him his craft ale for free
He claims to be broke but always has coke
Thank god for that liberal arts degree
He says, “Ethan, I believe this is itching me.”
As he scratched the filthy beard on his face
“One day I’ll be a famous artist,
But for now my dad pays for my place”
Oh, Yah yah yah di di yahhhhh
Yah yah di di yah yahhhhhh
Zoey is a waitress practicing smugness
Part time Vegans chew on chicken bones
Yes, they’re sharing with us their pretentiousness.
But it’s better than flying back home.
Sing us a song, you’re the Casio man
On the Bedford Ave platform tonight
You claim we hate you out of jealousy
Your beard I’d love to ignite.
Now Zach is a real shitty novelist
Got held up for his iPhone with a knife
He’s extremely lazy
Got fired from Old Navy
He’ll be in credit card debt for life
It’s a pretty good crowd for a Saturday
McCarren’s full of Chloes and Kyles
They’ve done shit all week; this park really reeks
And probably will for a while
And the Casio, it sounds like a 5 year old’s
And Ethans body is shaped like a spear
And they sit at the bar – drink from mason jars
And say, “Yah, PBR is the best beer”
Oh, Yah yah yah di di yahhhhh
Yah yah di di yah yahhhhhh
Sing us a song, you’re the Casio man
On the Bedford Ave platform tonight
You claim we hate you out of jealousy
Your beard I’d love to ignite
2012 Oct 10
Out the top of every beard grows a man. Beards are not just hip, they're the cat's evening wear. However, it does seem to run in the hipster mentality. A beard, or a pencil moustache. Yikes! Say NYET to pencil moustaches.
Go here for more examples:
lookatthisfuckinghipster.tumblr.com
Think of every fashion crime you can commit, then apply that to everything else in your life. That, I believe, is the hipster creed. Plus the fashion crime.
Go here for more examples:
lookatthisfuckinghipster.tumblr.com
Think of every fashion crime you can commit, then apply that to everything else in your life. That, I believe, is the hipster creed. Plus the fashion crime.
2012 Oct 11
I feel like the term has been misappropriated. You'll recall that Elaine referred to Kramer as a "hipster doofus" in the nineties.
Historically, the term was used to suggest a counterculture that was obsessed with the pursuit of originality, and by extension, the ever elusive "cool" factor.
www.dissentmagazine.org
In contemporary terms, I am not entirely sure that blind, slavish adherence to 3-5 year old hyper-local (i.e. NYC) trends is exactly original, and therefore by definition, certainly not "cool".
In short, I think the term is tired and off-point...but I do fully support any and all eccentricities in fashion and thought regardless!
Historically, the term was used to suggest a counterculture that was obsessed with the pursuit of originality, and by extension, the ever elusive "cool" factor.
www.dissentmagazine.org
In contemporary terms, I am not entirely sure that blind, slavish adherence to 3-5 year old hyper-local (i.e. NYC) trends is exactly original, and therefore by definition, certainly not "cool".
In short, I think the term is tired and off-point...but I do fully support any and all eccentricities in fashion and thought regardless!
2012 Oct 11
I think it means simply someone trying too hard to be cool and doing things for the sake of doing them to be cool not because you actually want to do them.
The other day my 8 year old was playing in the back yard with 2 of his friends, and he came running into the house and wanted a jar of peanut butter. After a few questions we determined he wanted to smear it all on his head.
I guess we've got a proto-hipster there :-)
The other day my 8 year old was playing in the back yard with 2 of his friends, and he came running into the house and wanted a jar of peanut butter. After a few questions we determined he wanted to smear it all on his head.
I guess we've got a proto-hipster there :-)
2012 Oct 11
One cannot be 'cool' AND 'hip'
To be 'hip' is to be 'cool' in a unique way, however once that hip becomes 'mainstream cool' then it is no longer cool in the view of the hipster.
Once the hipster becomes mainstream cool, they must change their ways to be even more unique, perpetuating the 'hipster cool' -> 'mainstream cool' cycle.
... Just my 2 cents =P
To be 'hip' is to be 'cool' in a unique way, however once that hip becomes 'mainstream cool' then it is no longer cool in the view of the hipster.
Once the hipster becomes mainstream cool, they must change their ways to be even more unique, perpetuating the 'hipster cool' -> 'mainstream cool' cycle.
... Just my 2 cents =P
2012 Oct 11
I think zym and FoodMonger have it. It's a self-obsessed adoption of a certain aesthetic, which, to me, is all about an extreme casualness, to the point that it stops being casual at all, and fake authenticity. Zym is right, it involves doing things that have come down from hipster mother-ships in Portland, New York, and London, to seem trendy, even if those things are objectively stupid (see Pabst, fixies, horrible hair cuts).
2012 Oct 11
Hipster is not misappropriated (i.e. the seinfeld reference) just repurposed. Hipster goes back to the 50's and the conotation is certainly not the same as today. However much dis-like people put on said hipsters, they are leading the way to good food in many of the latest restro's, both front/back of the house as well as the customers. Bourdain has some interested comments about them lately.
2012 Oct 11
I read an interesting article on the difference between a hipster and a geek (and by this definition, OF are geeks, not hip)
"Many people believe geekdom is defined by a love of a thing, but I think — and my experience of geekdom bears on this thinking — that the true sign of a geek is a delight in sharing a thing. It’s the major difference between a geek and a hipster, you know: When a hipster sees someone else grooving on the thing they love, their reaction is to say “Oh, crap, now the wrong people like the thing I love.” When a geek sees someone else grooving on the thing they love, their reaction is to say “ZOMG YOU LOVE WHAT I LOVE COME WITH ME AND LET US LOVE IT TOGETHER.”"
whatever.scalzi.com
"Many people believe geekdom is defined by a love of a thing, but I think — and my experience of geekdom bears on this thinking — that the true sign of a geek is a delight in sharing a thing. It’s the major difference between a geek and a hipster, you know: When a hipster sees someone else grooving on the thing they love, their reaction is to say “Oh, crap, now the wrong people like the thing I love.” When a geek sees someone else grooving on the thing they love, their reaction is to say “ZOMG YOU LOVE WHAT I LOVE COME WITH ME AND LET US LOVE IT TOGETHER.”"
whatever.scalzi.com
2012 Oct 11
I found hipster restaurants rating.
www.yelp.ca
One thing I noticed about hipsters, they need audience or mirror.
www.yelp.ca
One thing I noticed about hipsters, they need audience or mirror.
2012 Oct 12
HIpsters are nothing new though. There were always people going out of their way to be cool. And there were those of us who just achieved it as a natural state of being :-) Back in university in the late 80s the big rage was ripping holes in your jeans. I could never figure out why someone would want to ruin a perfectly good set of jeans and the only thing they proved in the process was that they were complete idiots. Oh I had a pair or two of well patched pants, but they got worn through the honest way and lovingly patched by me by hand.
2012 Oct 12
Talking about jeans, one thing I don't understand is the baggy jeans/ pants thing.
I wonder why some people wear pants like that way, is it their way to be cool?
It seems being cool is very important for many people, but I think being yourself, know what you like and value it like Zym is more cool.
I wonder why some people wear pants like that way, is it their way to be cool?
It seems being cool is very important for many people, but I think being yourself, know what you like and value it like Zym is more cool.
2012 Oct 13
Hahahahahaha!! Since I've just returned to Ottawa from a 2 day stay in Montreal's Plateau neighbourhood, I'm *very* familiar with the hipster stereotype. A picture is worth a thousand words and Rizak's link says it all: lookatthisfuckinghipster.tumblr.com
The funny thing I noticed in Montreal is that the guy hipsters all looked like dorks to me but their female compatriots looked just fine. Not even a knitted hat on the women!
That said, hipsters are just the latest of many fashion/lifestyle trends, and anyone from the outside looking in thinks it is stupid (just like every other fashion/lifestyle trend). When it comes to fashion and appearance, I guess our time is better spent judging the mirror than the window. :-)
The funny thing I noticed in Montreal is that the guy hipsters all looked like dorks to me but their female compatriots looked just fine. Not even a knitted hat on the women!
That said, hipsters are just the latest of many fashion/lifestyle trends, and anyone from the outside looking in thinks it is stupid (just like every other fashion/lifestyle trend). When it comes to fashion and appearance, I guess our time is better spent judging the mirror than the window. :-)
2012 Oct 18
Anyone who attends the FIRST ANNUAL EVER PLAID PARADE!
www.notrevictoire.com
It starts at SuzieQ donuts ... was about as far as I could read before throwing up a little bit in my mouth. THIS. This is where you will find every single hipster in the area, if they can manage to ride their fixie that far.
I think that with them all clumped together like that, they'd be easier to hit.
www.notrevictoire.com
It starts at SuzieQ donuts ... was about as far as I could read before throwing up a little bit in my mouth. THIS. This is where you will find every single hipster in the area, if they can manage to ride their fixie that far.
I think that with them all clumped together like that, they'd be easier to hit.
2012 Oct 18
Rizak - I am left to wonder why a man who so frequently mentions his own kilt wearing would pour such scorn on a plaid parade put on by a clothing store. Or why a person who frequents a website such as this would be offended by an event that features food from Murray Street and beer from Kichesippi. So offended, in fact, that he tosses off an hilarious one about running the participants down in his car. What a wit.
I must say, this thread is awash in more uncool, un-Ottawafoodies like a**holery than I have seen in a while.
I must say, this thread is awash in more uncool, un-Ottawafoodies like a**holery than I have seen in a while.
2012 Oct 19
Yes, but none of my kilts are plaid. The event is put on my more than just this one store (other hipstery places are involved as well) and I can only imagine that you are being a troll by assuming that I'd imagine driving over a plaid of hipsters (is a collection of hipsters a plaid or a pod?). They get caught up in the wheel wells and it takes hours to stop the noise.
Don't act like you know me. You don't know me. I am inscrutable. Ask anyone who has actually met me. My scrutles are beyond your ken. I am certainly odd, but not to be put in any pigeon-hole. Certainly not with the hipsters. Maybe I'll get out my bongos and sit outside the Parliament buildings crooning about letting love solve all of our problems. THEN I'd be a hipster.
Don't act like you know me. You don't know me. I am inscrutable. Ask anyone who has actually met me. My scrutles are beyond your ken. I am certainly odd, but not to be put in any pigeon-hole. Certainly not with the hipsters. Maybe I'll get out my bongos and sit outside the Parliament buildings crooning about letting love solve all of our problems. THEN I'd be a hipster.
2012 Nov 12
The downscale gourmet trend has been gathering steam over the past decade with the advent of gastropubs and their ilk. Montreal, with APDC, Joe Beef, and a great number of lesser known establishments, is riding the wave a couple years ahead of Ottawa.
Some sub-categories of Ottawa's downscale gourmet scene:
* small plates - Play, Two Six {Ate}, Allium, etc
* gastrobars - Wellington Gastropub, Union Local 613, microbreweries, etc
* Bohemian - Whalesbone, Town, Art-Is-In, etc
There is overlap between all of these and the hipster trend. Get used to it! Lumberjacks and truckers do not go for white tablecloths. ;-)
New word for Zym's entertainment... the Elmdale will be a gastrotavern. LOL :D
Some sub-categories of Ottawa's downscale gourmet scene:
* small plates - Play, Two Six {Ate}, Allium, etc
* gastrobars - Wellington Gastropub, Union Local 613, microbreweries, etc
* Bohemian - Whalesbone, Town, Art-Is-In, etc
There is overlap between all of these and the hipster trend. Get used to it! Lumberjacks and truckers do not go for white tablecloths. ;-)
New word for Zym's entertainment... the Elmdale will be a gastrotavern. LOL :D
2012 Nov 13
I thought this really needed to be added to the thread.
Brooklyn Couple Requires Apartment with Chicken Coop
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Brooklyn Couple Requires Apartment with Chicken Coop
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Johanna
Most recently overhead at the arboretum: "These hipsters can't even take their wedding photos without a can of Pabst Blue Ribbon!" (And yes, cans of Pabst were lining the front end of the limo...)
While there hasn't been a formal decree against hipsters on this site, comments I read now and again lead me to believe that they are detrimental to foodies' enjoyment of popular places. Could fellow foodies enlighten me as to what exactly defines this species?
(And for the record, no, I do not own an iPhone or any other product from Apple ;o)