Bacon [General]
2012 Sep 12
3 bacon'esque rules i live by...
1. More is more. Buy it thick or buy a slab from your butcher and cut it yourself;
2. Respect the bacon. Too much heat in the pan not your friend and burned bacon is only a reminder of the bacon that could have been;
3. More is more part deux. There is no such thing as too much bacon. There is only 'how much do we have available?'.
1. More is more. Buy it thick or buy a slab from your butcher and cut it yourself;
2. Respect the bacon. Too much heat in the pan not your friend and burned bacon is only a reminder of the bacon that could have been;
3. More is more part deux. There is no such thing as too much bacon. There is only 'how much do we have available?'.
2012 Sep 12
i posted a pictorial awhile back using a recipe tweaked from the book Charcuterie. see link below.
ottawafoodies.com
for the record i would NOT use Readycure as it is not a 1 for 1 substitute for Instacure (or Cure #1/prague powder as it is sometimes referred to in recipes).
ottawafoodies.com
for the record i would NOT use Readycure as it is not a 1 for 1 substitute for Instacure (or Cure #1/prague powder as it is sometimes referred to in recipes).
2012 Sep 12
Readycure is fine to use as long as you convert it. I won first place in Spring 2011 in a bacon contest in Halifax with bacon made with it. 11 entrants, 4 or 5 of them were professional chefs
conversion details on my blog here urbanhippy.ca/making/bacon
conversion details on my blog here urbanhippy.ca/making/bacon
2012 Sep 12
As for nitrates - I'm still making it both ways and don't notice a huge difference between them. Brining - have not done that in a long time but might do it again soon for kicks and giggles. My award winning bacon was dry cured as per the method monty links to above. That's the same method I use now and the same basic cure though I jazz it up with spices, onions and garlic. And as someone mentioned above, maple syrup. I replace half the brown sugar with maple syrup
2012 Sep 13
yeah that's my point all along Eastcoast.chef - there really is no need for it. I still have not done a side by side taste test but you sure can make great bacon without it. I use none, full amount, half amount, third amount ... all makes great bacon. The important part is curing it right (screwed up my last batch not doing that)
2012 Sep 13
About nitrate/nitrite...
While it certainly has some impact on color and taste, an important reason to use it would be because it prevents botulism, which is rare but deadly. Cold also prevents it (which is why nitrate-free bacon is usually sold frozen), but if your home-cured meat is going to stay at room temperature for a while, it's risky to not use that preservative.
And, by the way, even if you cook the meat very well before eating it, heat does not destroy the botulinum toxin.
While it certainly has some impact on color and taste, an important reason to use it would be because it prevents botulism, which is rare but deadly. Cold also prevents it (which is why nitrate-free bacon is usually sold frozen), but if your home-cured meat is going to stay at room temperature for a while, it's risky to not use that preservative.
And, by the way, even if you cook the meat very well before eating it, heat does not destroy the botulinum toxin.
2012 Sep 13
Heat most definitely destroys the toxin - just not the spores
en.wikipedia.org
So if you plan to eat your bacon raw, definitely use nitrite
en.wikipedia.org
So if you plan to eat your bacon raw, definitely use nitrite
2012 Sep 13
I would not consider bacon that you get in the store a truly cured meat requiring nitrite. It is used for flavoring for the most part. Since it is stored in a refrigerated mechanism and cooked, it does not need curing. I have some friends who use just salt for curing meats and that is what was historically done, but not the safest.
2012 Sep 13
So nitrate-free bacon is the fugu of charcuterie? Interesting concept, it explains a lot ;-)
Thanks for the correction, indeed it's just the spores that survive, and those shouldn't affect you unless they touch a wound. Handling the contaminated food before cooking it would be pretty dangerous though, considering how small the lethal dose is for that crazy neurotoxin.
I admit to being scared of that one, so I've kept my meat curing experiments so far to those that can be done entirely in the fridge, or those that give a result too dry and salty for bacteria. So I haven't dared to make bacon yet :-/
Thanks for the correction, indeed it's just the spores that survive, and those shouldn't affect you unless they touch a wound. Handling the contaminated food before cooking it would be pretty dangerous though, considering how small the lethal dose is for that crazy neurotoxin.
I admit to being scared of that one, so I've kept my meat curing experiments so far to those that can be done entirely in the fridge, or those that give a result too dry and salty for bacteria. So I haven't dared to make bacon yet :-/
2012 Sep 14
bacon is cured in the fridge, it's not hung or anything like that. the only time the bacon would not be in the fridge is when it is in the smoker...and even then it's not in there for that long, maybe an hour or so is all you need. i see the need for nitrites if you are doing a very long smoke on the belly....but otherwise. I have never used nitrites/nitrates for bacon. do you honestly care that the meat is nice and pink/red when raw.....it's not going to look that way once it is cooked.
2012 Sep 28
Bacon turned out great if a bit salty. I did soak it for two hours but I guess I'll try a little longer next time. I ended up doing 2 portions of Krusy pork side for just under three hours on the Egg at about 195F. I ended up with an internal temp of about 138F.
Thanks for all the advice!
Thanks for all the advice!
Tree Pug