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people's choice beer award - need input [Events]
OK, I need some help. We are having a homebrew competition and the main event (for the homebrewers at least) will be a proper BJCP competition with certified beer judges.
But we also want to have a parallel "people's choice" event to let any average joe help pick a people's choice winner. We're just not sure of an easy way to do this.
In the simplest form I envision handing each person 2 samples and saying "which do you like best". For this to work, you have to endeavor to never pair the same 2 beers together so that each beer gets paired with as many other beers as possible. But that's not easy. But maybe a math geek can help.
While it would be easiest, you can't just open 2 bottles and then serve those 2 beers to each person until they are empty. That would not be very fair mathematically. So each beer has to be paired only exactly once with another beer.
Is there a good formula to help us easily run this in a VERY crowded event. The homebrew competition will be held in conjunction with a major event so there will be a LOT of people. Keep in mind we will have to have a whole crapload of bottles of homebrew on ice, and in order to do the optimal pairings for fairness there will have to be X bottles open where X is bigger than 2.
Are you following me so far? Get what I mean? Am I explaining this right?
Do you either have :
(1) a formula to easily run the proposed method including recording scores
(2) a better proposal?
I'm not a mathematical genius, but I would say that in order to create a formula for this it would be useful to first of all have a) the approximate number of different beers, and b) the approximate number of people you expect to have sampling them.
That is important Johnny. Should be about 50 beers with 4 bottles each, and we'll have more people wanting to sample than samples available so that number will the amount of samples available.
So it is sort of a physical math problem where the physical aspect of it is really important.
But I think I have it figured out - will post details later. There are several things that make it an oddball round robin problem including that homebrew almost always has a bit of sediment in the bottle, so when you start pouring you should not stop or you'll distrub it. So you have to pour all the samples at once. And there are so many bottles that you can't really use a traditional round robin generator because you would have to go fishing for which pair is up now and it would be too hard to do. But the answer is pretty simple - I think at least. When I post it later many someone can check it over to see if it is.
peoples choice are not usually entirely fair, but are democratic. I would just sell some number of tickets - say 5 and let them try whatever is available and drop in a token at their favorite. Peoples choice is more of marketing/feel good type of thing for most food/bev related contests.
Here is what I came up with - check out the google doc
BTW, I'm looking for volunteers to help run this at Beaus Oktoberfest this year. If you help out even with one shift you get a free 3 day pass for Oktoberfest. PM me if interested. Make sure you read the above google doc.
thanks a lot for the help today, it was great to finally meet you in person!
Here are day #1 results tabulated - see sheet #2 "Scores". Of course you have to know your own entry number to know how you are doing :-)
I still could use 1 or 2 people tomorrow if you want a free pass. Message me before then or better email.
We are adding a sheet #3 to list names against numbers. Keep in mind these are only day 1 results and everything could change tomorrow
Still could really use 1 or 2 people
Zym did a fine job or organizing this. It was a really fun event, and the from the dregs I tasted some really fine home brew. I encourage everyone who likes beer to go out next year if Zym is organizing it again.
Pretty sure we'll be doing it again next year and I'll organize if my wife will let me :-)
Complete results now in the link above - check the 2nd sheet "Scores"
Top 3 are :
72.4 Mike Sherry NZ IPA
70.8 PJ Scrivens Whaleonia Saison
66.7 Alex Sheftel Porked Smoter
Left column is percentage score
Thanks a lot to Defalco's for providing prizes to the top 2. #1 gets a medal and $100 gift certificate, and #2 gets a $50 gift certificate